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	<title>Comments on: Laptops in Law School</title>
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		<title>By: donald ahearn</title>
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		<description>Prof. Madison,

Your post offers a lucid analysis, thanks.  As one of your former students, yes, I almost never took notes because I found it a less than efficient use of my time.  I used a laptop briefly, but found it an obstacle for the reasons you noted.  I had you for Contracts in my first semester;  this was before I became jaded with respect to the large-class experience of the core curriculum.  Your class, and the late and magnificent Prof. Welsh White&#039;s class are the only classes that I&#039;ve seen any form of the socratic method used effectively.  In both, there existed much more of a lab feel, as I had experienced in my BFA/MFA Writing and Literature programs.  If only this type of interplay was the norm; quite the opposite is the case, in my experience.   Although Prof. Lobel&#039;s Con Law had a very effective structure.  The Profs are brilliant and knowledgable, but faced with far too many students, and a self-perpetuating tradition based on what I believe to be antiquated leaning theory. 

In response to many factors, students either transcribe or tune out, in large numbers.  Banning laptops doesn&#039;t cure the underlying problem: too many students in one room, coupled with very little benefit gained from engaging in risk-laden participation (as in ego-stomping criticism from peers).  This goes to your externalities discussion.

My suggestion is to offer 20-30 minutes of lecture every class, with no questions.  Then open up the floor to debate.  I know this sounds crazy and possibly disrespectful, but I&#039;m an old man.  Additionally, I&#039;ve seen this format work extremely well for English Lit. II, Form and Theory of Poetry and many other worthy subjects.</description>
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<p>Your post offers a lucid analysis, thanks.  As one of your former students, yes, I almost never took notes because I found it a less than efficient use of my time.  I used a laptop briefly, but found it an obstacle for the reasons you noted.  I had you for Contracts in my first semester;  this was before I became jaded with respect to the large-class experience of the core curriculum.  Your class, and the late and magnificent Prof. Welsh White&#8217;s class are the only classes that I&#8217;ve seen any form of the socratic method used effectively.  In both, there existed much more of a lab feel, as I had experienced in my BFA/MFA Writing and Literature programs.  If only this type of interplay was the norm; quite the opposite is the case, in my experience.   Although Prof. Lobel&#8217;s Con Law had a very effective structure.  The Profs are brilliant and knowledgable, but faced with far too many students, and a self-perpetuating tradition based on what I believe to be antiquated leaning theory. </p>
<p>In response to many factors, students either transcribe or tune out, in large numbers.  Banning laptops doesn&#8217;t cure the underlying problem: too many students in one room, coupled with very little benefit gained from engaging in risk-laden participation (as in ego-stomping criticism from peers).  This goes to your externalities discussion.</p>
<p>My suggestion is to offer 20-30 minutes of lecture every class, with no questions.  Then open up the floor to debate.  I know this sounds crazy and possibly disrespectful, but I&#8217;m an old man.  Additionally, I&#8217;ve seen this format work extremely well for English Lit. II, Form and Theory of Poetry and many other worthy subjects.</p>
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