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		<title>By: Mark Schultz</title>
		<link>http://madisonian.net/2007/02/12/wikis-for-collaborative-teaching/comment-page-1/#comment-166985</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Schultz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, I&#039;ve had class blogs for a few years and love the results.  I use Typepad.  The school pays for my account--the paid account allows for password protection and creation of an unlimited number of blogs.  I cited student privacy concerns to justify the small fee.

Creating accounts for every student was a nuisance until I found a workaround.  All students use a single guest account and have to include their names in the post.  I suppose this raises the potential problem of anonymous posting and unauthorized editing.  It has yet to be a problem--our students are largely decent, well-mannered, law abiding Midwesterners.  YMMV

Getting good content requires some guidelines on posting and minimum posting and commenting requirements.  There are usually a few who really take to it and give the blog a lot of life.

The reason I have the blog is to help the students learn better by engaging with the material outside of class.  It seems to work.  They have really pleased me and frequently exceed my expectations.  They give me a lot of great discussion material for class.

I&#039;ve considered adding a Wiki, but I&#039;m trying to consider carefully the pedagogical purpose for doing so.  One thing in particular that has held me back:  It would be yet another aspect of class to administer and maintain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, I&#8217;ve had class blogs for a few years and love the results.  I use Typepad.  The school pays for my account&#8211;the paid account allows for password protection and creation of an unlimited number of blogs.  I cited student privacy concerns to justify the small fee.</p>
<p>Creating accounts for every student was a nuisance until I found a workaround.  All students use a single guest account and have to include their names in the post.  I suppose this raises the potential problem of anonymous posting and unauthorized editing.  It has yet to be a problem&#8211;our students are largely decent, well-mannered, law abiding Midwesterners.  YMMV</p>
<p>Getting good content requires some guidelines on posting and minimum posting and commenting requirements.  There are usually a few who really take to it and give the blog a lot of life.</p>
<p>The reason I have the blog is to help the students learn better by engaging with the material outside of class.  It seems to work.  They have really pleased me and frequently exceed my expectations.  They give me a lot of great discussion material for class.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve considered adding a Wiki, but I&#8217;m trying to consider carefully the pedagogical purpose for doing so.  One thing in particular that has held me back:  It would be yet another aspect of class to administer and maintain.</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca Tushnet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rebecca Tushnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband had a class wiki that didn&#039;t do much, and a somewhat more useful wiki for a research seminar that collected information about Washington history.  I think you have to ask what a wiki will add -- will people really create links between entries, add commentary, etc.?  How much does persistence matter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband had a class wiki that didn&#8217;t do much, and a somewhat more useful wiki for a research seminar that collected information about Washington history.  I think you have to ask what a wiki will add &#8212; will people really create links between entries, add commentary, etc.?  How much does persistence matter?</p>
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		<title>By: Elmer Masters</title>
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		<dc:creator>Elmer Masters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 20:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,
The problem with Classcaster is that the password plugin doesn&#039;t work right with Internet Explorer and it breaks the submission plugin.  If you turned off the password plugin, submissions would work.
If you are interested in trying a wiki format, drop me a note.  While CALI is not formallly providing a wiki service we are setting up a limited number of course wikis as a pilot program.
Elmer</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,<br />
The problem with Classcaster is that the password plugin doesn&#8217;t work right with Internet Explorer and it breaks the submission plugin.  If you turned off the password plugin, submissions would work.<br />
If you are interested in trying a wiki format, drop me a note.  While CALI is not formallly providing a wiki service we are setting up a limited number of course wikis as a pilot program.<br />
Elmer</p>
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		<title>By: Luis Villa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Luis Villa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zittrain and Nesson have used them on occasion, starting in Winter 2006. One of them is here: http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~cyberlaw/wiki/index.php/Main_Page</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zittrain and Nesson have used them on occasion, starting in Winter 2006. One of them is here: <a href="http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~cyberlaw/wiki/index.php/Main_Page" rel="nofollow">http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~cyberlaw/wiki/index.php/Main_Page</a></p>
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		<title>By: James Grimmelmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Grimmelmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 19:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve bad nothing but bad experiences with TWiki.  I&#039;d recommend MediaWiki, because what students learn there will carry over directly onto Wikipedia and many other thriving wikis.

If you trust your students not to leak the username/password all over the place, it&#039;s easy enough to set up any wiki you like with HTTP access controls -- one username/password pair just for access to the server, which is known the the whole class.  They can then set up their own accounts for purposes of signing their posts on the wiki itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve bad nothing but bad experiences with TWiki.  I&#8217;d recommend MediaWiki, because what students learn there will carry over directly onto Wikipedia and many other thriving wikis.</p>
<p>If you trust your students not to leak the username/password all over the place, it&#8217;s easy enough to set up any wiki you like with HTTP access controls &#8212; one username/password pair just for access to the server, which is known the the whole class.  They can then set up their own accounts for purposes of signing their posts on the wiki itself.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Risch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Risch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have created a wiki http://www.casesofinterest.com in part because I think blogs are too ephemeral to produce collaboration and long term contributions.

That said, I&#039;m not teaching my first class until Fall 2007, so I haven&#039;t had a chance to test it with a class yet and have no idea how well it will work in practice.  I hope to soon!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have created a wiki <a href="http://www.casesofinterest.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.casesofinterest.com</a> in part because I think blogs are too ephemeral to produce collaboration and long term contributions.</p>
<p>That said, I&#8217;m not teaching my first class until Fall 2007, so I haven&#8217;t had a chance to test it with a class yet and have no idea how well it will work in practice.  I hope to soon!</p>
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		<title>By: Randy Picker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Picker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2007 18:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am using blogs in two classes this quarter. Happy with the results so far. I have a post that describes all of this:

http://uchicagolaw.typepad.com/faculty/2007/01/teaching_antitr.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am using blogs in two classes this quarter. Happy with the results so far. I have a post that describes all of this:</p>
<p><a href="http://uchicagolaw.typepad.com/faculty/2007/01/teaching_antitr.html" rel="nofollow">http://uchicagolaw.typepad.com/faculty/2007/01/teaching_antitr.html</a></p>
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