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	<title>Comments on: Derivative Works vs. Performances</title>
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		<title>By: Nancy McClernan</title>
		<link>http://madisonian.net/2007/04/28/derivative-works-vs-performances/comment-page-1/#comment-208604</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy McClernan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 14:40:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I did was tell the truth about Edward Einhorn&#039;s activities - all of it backed up with evidence, including court transcripts and exhibits. If these things &quot;villify&quot; Edward Einhorn, Edward Einhorn has only himself to blame.

And BTW - Einhorn and his brother managed to weasle out of cancelling his unauthorized derivative copyright on my play TAM LIN - but fear not, Einhorn - it WILL be cancelled and very soon. And once more I will &quot;villify&quot; your life by telling everybody the tale of how you (and your brother) shamefully behaved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I did was tell the truth about Edward Einhorn&#8217;s activities &#8211; all of it backed up with evidence, including court transcripts and exhibits. If these things &#8220;villify&#8221; Edward Einhorn, Edward Einhorn has only himself to blame.</p>
<p>And BTW &#8211; Einhorn and his brother managed to weasle out of cancelling his unauthorized derivative copyright on my play TAM LIN &#8211; but fear not, Einhorn &#8211; it WILL be cancelled and very soon. And once more I will &#8220;villify&#8221; your life by telling everybody the tale of how you (and your brother) shamefully behaved.</p>
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		<title>By: erik</title>
		<link>http://madisonian.net/2007/04/28/derivative-works-vs-performances/comment-page-1/#comment-206488</link>
		<dc:creator>erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2007 16:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Could (should) copyright judges invent something similar to the &gt;reverse doctrine of equivalents when applying substantial similarity &gt;analysis?

You don&#039;t need me to tell you this idea is completely impractical -- who are judges to make that call? -- but I&#039;d gladly apply for a job as a District Equivalence Judge (presumably they&#039;d be hired based on taste, critical ability, breadth of reading and cultural literacy). 

Cool idea, though. If you write a better Harry Potter... court finds in your favor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Could (should) copyright judges invent something similar to the &gt;reverse doctrine of equivalents when applying substantial similarity &gt;analysis?</p>
<p>You don&#8217;t need me to tell you this idea is completely impractical &#8212; who are judges to make that call? &#8212; but I&#8217;d gladly apply for a job as a District Equivalence Judge (presumably they&#8217;d be hired based on taste, critical ability, breadth of reading and cultural literacy). </p>
<p>Cool idea, though. If you write a better Harry Potter&#8230; court finds in your favor!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Madison</title>
		<link>http://madisonian.net/2007/04/28/derivative-works-vs-performances/comment-page-1/#comment-206270</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Madison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Apr 2007 15:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could (should) copyright judges invent something similar to the reverse doctrine of equivalents when applying substantial similarity analysis?  That is, a work could infringe as a matter of black letter law, but a finding of noninfringement might be warranted because the defendant&#039;s work represents a significant and material advance over its predecessor -- the new dominating the old, as it were -- promoting the Progress of Science, rather than interfering with the copyright owner&#039;s incentives to produce and distribute the original.  Or, perhaps a la mechanical licensing, the copyright owner should be allowed compensation but not the prospect of an injunction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could (should) copyright judges invent something similar to the reverse doctrine of equivalents when applying substantial similarity analysis?  That is, a work could infringe as a matter of black letter law, but a finding of noninfringement might be warranted because the defendant&#8217;s work represents a significant and material advance over its predecessor &#8212; the new dominating the old, as it were &#8212; promoting the Progress of Science, rather than interfering with the copyright owner&#8217;s incentives to produce and distribute the original.  Or, perhaps a la mechanical licensing, the copyright owner should be allowed compensation but not the prospect of an injunction.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://madisonian.net/2007/04/28/derivative-works-vs-performances/comment-page-1/#comment-205986</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 05:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you Google news alerts for tipping me off to this.

I&#039;m the director of GATZ, NO GREAT SOCIETY, and the open rehearsal of the piece based on THE SOUND AND THE FURY. I welcome this discussion because, ever since we first clashed with the Fitzgerald Estate, I&#039;ve become very interested in copyright law and all its implications, especially with regard to what we&#039;re up to in ERS.

I&#039;ll stay on the sidelines for now but I will add this clarification:

ERS is performing these works with permission. 

The Fitzgerald Estate won&#039;t let us do GATZ in NYC and that is a continuing source of frustration for us, but we are doing it just about everywhere else.

-- John Collins</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you Google news alerts for tipping me off to this.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m the director of GATZ, NO GREAT SOCIETY, and the open rehearsal of the piece based on THE SOUND AND THE FURY. I welcome this discussion because, ever since we first clashed with the Fitzgerald Estate, I&#8217;ve become very interested in copyright law and all its implications, especially with regard to what we&#8217;re up to in ERS.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll stay on the sidelines for now but I will add this clarification:</p>
<p>ERS is performing these works with permission. </p>
<p>The Fitzgerald Estate won&#8217;t let us do GATZ in NYC and that is a continuing source of frustration for us, but we are doing it just about everywhere else.</p>
<p>&#8211; John Collins</p>
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		<title>By: Edward Einhorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edward Einhorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed your post, and I just wanted to point out that, though I know opinions can differ regarding the director&#039;s copyright issue, I do not believe Nancy McClernan&#039;s article gives a fair and accurate representation of any of the facts regarding our case.  I wrote am essay about my thoughts regarding director&#039;s copyright on my web site, before Nancy published and publicized her essay (which doesn&#039;t, in my opinion, so much express as opinion as it attempts to villify me).  You can find my essay at http://www.untitledtheater.com/DirectorsCopyright.htm.  As for the many claims in Nancy&#039;s article that go beyond the intellectual issue, I can only state that they are misleading at best, and completely fabricated at worst.

Regarding Gatz, I do believe that performances should not be blocked except as an absolute last resort, but that&#039;s my personal artistic (and perhaps moral) belief.  Copyright, I think, should exist to ensure proper compensation, not to block creativity.  However, there&#039;s no question, if the ERS were using the text of the book verbatim, that the estate had the right to bar the perforance.  Do I really think Gatz was any threat to the dramatization of the Great Gatsby?  No.   Should the book be in the public domain?  Yes, definitely yes.  The law extending copyright in a creativity killer.  But as the law stands, what it says is clear...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed your post, and I just wanted to point out that, though I know opinions can differ regarding the director&#8217;s copyright issue, I do not believe Nancy McClernan&#8217;s article gives a fair and accurate representation of any of the facts regarding our case.  I wrote am essay about my thoughts regarding director&#8217;s copyright on my web site, before Nancy published and publicized her essay (which doesn&#8217;t, in my opinion, so much express as opinion as it attempts to villify me).  You can find my essay at <a href="http://www.untitledtheater.com/DirectorsCopyright.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.untitledtheater.com/DirectorsCopyright.htm</a>.  As for the many claims in Nancy&#8217;s article that go beyond the intellectual issue, I can only state that they are misleading at best, and completely fabricated at worst.</p>
<p>Regarding Gatz, I do believe that performances should not be blocked except as an absolute last resort, but that&#8217;s my personal artistic (and perhaps moral) belief.  Copyright, I think, should exist to ensure proper compensation, not to block creativity.  However, there&#8217;s no question, if the ERS were using the text of the book verbatim, that the estate had the right to bar the perforance.  Do I really think Gatz was any threat to the dramatization of the Great Gatsby?  No.   Should the book be in the public domain?  Yes, definitely yes.  The law extending copyright in a creativity killer.  But as the law stands, what it says is clear&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Boyden</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Boyden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 03:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Assuming you agree copyright owners should be able to license public performances of their work (and maybe you don&#039;t, but then that goes way beyond this particular dispute), how does this not qualify as a public performance? Even if there&#039;s something new added in the way it&#039;s read, surely that&#039;s true of *all* non-pre-recorded public performances. But plays are the archetypal work with a public performance right. There&#039;s no rights accretion here, it&#039;s within the umbra of the copyright.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Assuming you agree copyright owners should be able to license public performances of their work (and maybe you don&#8217;t, but then that goes way beyond this particular dispute), how does this not qualify as a public performance? Even if there&#8217;s something new added in the way it&#8217;s read, surely that&#8217;s true of *all* non-pre-recorded public performances. But plays are the archetypal work with a public performance right. There&#8217;s no rights accretion here, it&#8217;s within the umbra of the copyright.</p>
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