Comments on: The Online Adventures of Tom Sawyer http://madisonian.net/2007/05/01/the-online-adventures-of-tom-sawyer/ a blog about law, tech, culture, and related things Sat, 11 Feb 2012 02:59:42 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Frank http://madisonian.net/2007/05/01/the-online-adventures-of-tom-sawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-206714 Frank Wed, 02 May 2007 20:02:36 +0000 http://madisonian.net/archives/2007/05/01/the-online-adventures-of-tom-sawyer/#comment-206714 Okay, I get the point better now. I think that's why I tried to push the debate on Trebor's ideas more toward democratic norms and transparency in the "context providers" that make all the money "off the backs of" the users. Of course, as James Grimmelmann points out, I haven't specified exactly how that will work. But a piece Oren Bracha and I are now working on will give some idea of what the very successful context providers owe their communities, and the community as a whole. Perhaps also the emphasis should be less on "compensate the workers" than a focus on potential "unjust enrichment." Okay, I get the point better now. I think that’s why I tried to push the debate on Trebor’s ideas more toward democratic norms and transparency in the “context providers” that make all the money “off the backs of” the users.

Of course, as James Grimmelmann points out, I haven’t specified exactly how that will work. But a piece Oren Bracha and I are now working on will give some idea of what the very successful context providers owe their communities, and the community as a whole.

Perhaps also the emphasis should be less on “compensate the workers” than a focus on potential “unjust enrichment.”

]]> By: Mike Madison http://madisonian.net/2007/05/01/the-online-adventures-of-tom-sawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-206654 Mike Madison Wed, 02 May 2007 11:46:56 +0000 http://madisonian.net/archives/2007/05/01/the-online-adventures-of-tom-sawyer/#comment-206654 The metaphoric struggle is as interesting as the debate on the merits. Of course, the metaphoric struggle *is* the debate on the merits. "They're working" vs. "they're playing" is the "Tastes Great!" vs. "Less Filling!" of the 21st century, that is, an endless, pointless debate. (Oops! Metaphors again!) So instead we search for the "right" description: whitewashing the fence? sharecropping? The challenge here isn't the Cardozo-ish "take care that metaphors may enslave us"; Cardozo had it -- metaphorically -- backwards. We're constrained here analytically precisely because we *haven't* yet found the right metaphor. The metaphoric struggle is as interesting as the debate on the merits. Of course, the metaphoric struggle *is* the debate on the merits. “They’re working” vs. “they’re playing” is the “Tastes Great!” vs. “Less Filling!” of the 21st century, that is, an endless, pointless debate. (Oops! Metaphors again!) So instead we search for the “right” description: whitewashing the fence? sharecropping? The challenge here isn’t the Cardozo-ish “take care that metaphors may enslave us”; Cardozo had it — metaphorically — backwards. We’re constrained here analytically precisely because we *haven’t* yet found the right metaphor.

]]> By: Frank http://madisonian.net/2007/05/01/the-online-adventures-of-tom-sawyer/comment-page-1/#comment-206609 Frank Wed, 02 May 2007 03:22:49 +0000 http://madisonian.net/archives/2007/05/01/the-online-adventures-of-tom-sawyer/#comment-206609 I saw a great presentation on this topic; my post on it (With a link to Susan Crawford's take) is here: http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/04/is_myspace_expl.html I saw a great presentation on this topic; my post on it (With a link to Susan Crawford’s take) is here:

http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/2007/04/is_myspace_expl.html

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