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		<title>By: Deven</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 19:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That reminds me of the loan-out practice within the entertainment industry. When hiring an actor, one goes through a coporation, owned by the &quot;talent,&quot; to hire the talent. The idea being to gain corporate protections for the individual. Of course it starts to mirror the odd third person references you mention. 

It also reminds me of something that perhaps you posted regarding many people&#039;s belief that they will be famous. That delusion reminds me of another Frank, Frank Zappa, and his stance on love songs:

&quot;I detest &#039;love lyrics&#039;. I think one of the causes of the bad mental health in the United States is that people have been raised on &#039;love lyrics.&#039;&quot;

And 

&quot;You&#039;re a young kid and you hear all those &#039;love lyrics,&#039; right? Your parents aren&#039;t telling the truth about love, and you can&#039;t really learn about it in school. You&#039;re getting the bulk of your &#039;behavior norms&#039; mapped out for you in the lyrics to some dumb fucking love song. It&#039;s a subconscious training that creates a desire for an imaginary situation which will never exist for you. People who buy into that mythology go through life feeling that they got cheated or something.&quot;

Although Zappa may have gone a bit overboard, I think the same view applies to current notions of fame.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That reminds me of the loan-out practice within the entertainment industry. When hiring an actor, one goes through a coporation, owned by the &#8220;talent,&#8221; to hire the talent. The idea being to gain corporate protections for the individual. Of course it starts to mirror the odd third person references you mention. </p>
<p>It also reminds me of something that perhaps you posted regarding many people&#8217;s belief that they will be famous. That delusion reminds me of another Frank, Frank Zappa, and his stance on love songs:</p>
<p>&#8220;I detest &#8216;love lyrics&#8217;. I think one of the causes of the bad mental health in the United States is that people have been raised on &#8216;love lyrics.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>And </p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;re a young kid and you hear all those &#8216;love lyrics,&#8217; right? Your parents aren&#8217;t telling the truth about love, and you can&#8217;t really learn about it in school. You&#8217;re getting the bulk of your &#8216;behavior norms&#8217; mapped out for you in the lyrics to some dumb fucking love song. It&#8217;s a subconscious training that creates a desire for an imaginary situation which will never exist for you. People who buy into that mythology go through life feeling that they got cheated or something.&#8221;</p>
<p>Although Zappa may have gone a bit overboard, I think the same view applies to current notions of fame.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jul 2007 03:25:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps everyone now wants a celebrity-style image-management system. see, e.g.,
http://tls.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25351-2641785,00.html

&quot;“Seemingly every single person in the country”, Halpern says, is “lining up to become famous.” They have to line up, because the way is clogged.&quot;

It could lead to some funny habits: 

&quot;It is often noted that celebrities refer to themselves in the first-person plural. “For two years,” Garth Brooks recently told the Independent, “we couldn’t find anything that we wanted to be an actor in.” Other famous people have cultivated the habit of referring to themselves in the third-person singular: “I’ve been very careful that Deborah Norville does the right thing”, the TV personality Deborah Norville told the Seattle Times last year; “Deborah has been pretty clever about managing her associations”. The actor Richard Dreyfuss uses both the first-person plural and the third-person singular (possibly, one day, he will start referring to himself as “they”).&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps everyone now wants a celebrity-style image-management system. see, e.g.,<br />
<a href="http://tls.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25351-2641785,00.html" rel="nofollow">http://tls.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25351-2641785,00.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;“Seemingly every single person in the country”, Halpern says, is “lining up to become famous.” They have to line up, because the way is clogged.&#8221;</p>
<p>It could lead to some funny habits: </p>
<p>&#8220;It is often noted that celebrities refer to themselves in the first-person plural. “For two years,” Garth Brooks recently told the Independent, “we couldn’t find anything that we wanted to be an actor in.” Other famous people have cultivated the habit of referring to themselves in the third-person singular: “I’ve been very careful that Deborah Norville does the right thing”, the TV personality Deborah Norville told the Seattle Times last year; “Deborah has been pretty clever about managing her associations”. The actor Richard Dreyfuss uses both the first-person plural and the third-person singular (possibly, one day, he will start referring to himself as “they”).&#8221;</p>
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