Comments on: Institutes of Excellence and the Global, Departmentalized Law School http://madisonian.net/2008/04/08/institutes-of-excellence-and-the-global-departmentalized-law-school/ a blog about law, tech, culture, and related things Tue, 09 Mar 2010 04:38:08 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Deven http://madisonian.net/2008/04/08/institutes-of-excellence-and-the-global-departmentalized-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-247161 Deven Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:41:47 +0000 http://madisonian.net/?p=1369#comment-247161 Right. Then what is it about law school that calls the cost into such question? Are the top 200 business schools charging much less? Do business school students have different expectations as far the return on the degree? Guaranteed employment is not in place. The PhD point seems to argue for a more stratified system which may make sense but I am trying to see where the cut-off in business schools is for offering such programs. Right. Then what is it about law school that calls the cost into such question? Are the top 200 business schools charging much less? Do business school students have different expectations as far the return on the degree? Guaranteed employment is not in place.

The PhD point seems to argue for a more stratified system which may make sense but I am trying to see where the cut-off in business schools is for offering such programs.

]]> By: Orly Lobel http://madisonian.net/2008/04/08/institutes-of-excellence-and-the-global-departmentalized-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-246986 Orly Lobel Fri, 11 Apr 2008 00:57:07 +0000 http://madisonian.net/?p=1369#comment-246986 deven, you are right -- more business schools than law schools because accreditation is much looser when there is no equivalent ABA/AALS requirements. and yes, not all b-schools have PhD programs, but all of the ambitious ones do... deven, you are right — more business schools than law schools because accreditation is much looser when there is no equivalent ABA/AALS requirements. and yes, not all b-schools have PhD programs, but all of the ambitious ones do…

]]> By: Deven Desai http://madisonian.net/2008/04/08/institutes-of-excellence-and-the-global-departmentalized-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-246575 Deven Desai Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:52:14 +0000 http://madisonian.net/?p=1369#comment-246575 Orly, Do all business schools operate this way? It seems there are many MBA conferring schools that are unlikely to have PhD programs. I could be wrong but I think accredited business schools outnumber law schools but a fair amount. Orly,

Do all business schools operate this way? It seems there are many MBA conferring schools that are unlikely to have PhD programs. I could be wrong but I think accredited business schools outnumber law schools but a fair amount.

]]> By: Stephen M (Ethesis) http://madisonian.net/2008/04/08/institutes-of-excellence-and-the-global-departmentalized-law-school/comment-page-1/#comment-246534 Stephen M (Ethesis) Wed, 09 Apr 2008 13:48:15 +0000 http://madisonian.net/?p=1369#comment-246534 Many law professors are really just second year associates (from a lawyer's perspective). You need to ask yourself just what does a second year associate really know? What legal work would you entrust to a second year associate to do unsupervised? You've hit an excellent point on the difference between an MBA and a DBA (or the other various doctorate degrees in business), and other PhDs. I would also note that the widespread use of adjuncts also means that a PhD who is on the market will also have had significant experience teaching -- under supervision -- and will have had training in how to teach. By comparison, most law professors have had no experience, prior to starting their first job, in teaching. You make some interesting points. Many law professors are really just second year associates (from a lawyer’s perspective). You need to ask yourself just what does a second year associate really know? What legal work would you entrust to a second year associate to do unsupervised?

You’ve hit an excellent point on the difference between an MBA and a DBA (or the other various doctorate degrees in business), and other PhDs.

I would also note that the widespread use of adjuncts also means that a PhD who is on the market will also have had significant experience teaching — under supervision — and will have had training in how to teach.

By comparison, most law professors have had no experience, prior to starting their first job, in teaching.

You make some interesting points.

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