Comments on: Copyright and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance http://madisonian.net/2009/06/30/copyright-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance/ a blog about law, tech, culture, and related things Thu, 10 May 2012 20:32:56 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Copycense http://madisonian.net/2009/06/30/copyright-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance/comment-page-1/#comment-281560 Copycense Wed, 08 Jul 2009 16:21:58 +0000 http://madisonian.net/?p=2614#comment-281560 This echoes some of the comments made be T.S. Monk in October 2008 at a Future of Music panel on sampling (which we have discussed at http://bit.ly/jdaTt within the context of the sampling one-man band Girl Talk). We believe Monk went a bit too far in equating the work that goes into creativity with a natural right theory of copyright. Still, there is something to be said for an audience not seeing creative people work PLUS the absence of a physical manifestation of that work (i.e. a disc) leading to a devaluation of the work itself. This echoes some of the comments made be T.S. Monk in October 2008 at a Future of Music panel on sampling (which we have discussed at http://bit.ly/jdaTt within the context of the sampling one-man band Girl Talk). We believe Monk went a bit too far in equating the work that goes into creativity with a natural right theory of copyright. Still, there is something to be said for an audience not seeing creative people work PLUS the absence of a physical manifestation of that work (i.e. a disc) leading to a devaluation of the work itself.

]]> By: Mike Madison http://madisonian.net/2009/06/30/copyright-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance/comment-page-1/#comment-281232 Mike Madison Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:38:06 +0000 http://madisonian.net/?p=2614#comment-281232 Brilliant suggestion, Siva. Thanks! Brilliant suggestion, Siva. Thanks!

]]> By: Siva Vaidhyanathan http://madisonian.net/2009/06/30/copyright-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance/comment-page-1/#comment-281158 Siva Vaidhyanathan Wed, 01 Jul 2009 19:49:21 +0000 http://madisonian.net/?p=2614#comment-281158 Michael, You would be interested in this book by Richard Sennett, which makes similar arguments and connects craftpersonship directly to Free and Open Source: http://chronicle.com/weekly/v54/i37/37b00501.htm Michael,

You would be interested in this book by Richard Sennett, which makes similar arguments and connects craftpersonship directly to Free and Open Source:

http://chronicle.com/weekly/v54/i37/37b00501.htm

]]> By: Frank http://madisonian.net/2009/06/30/copyright-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance/comment-page-1/#comment-281099 Frank Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:32:07 +0000 http://madisonian.net/?p=2614#comment-281099 Oh, and by the way, this conference on the boundary between play and labor on the internet may be of interest: http://www.digitallabor.org/ Oh, and by the way, this conference on the boundary between play and labor on the internet may be of interest:
http://www.digitallabor.org/

]]> By: Frank http://madisonian.net/2009/06/30/copyright-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance/comment-page-1/#comment-281098 Frank Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:30:54 +0000 http://madisonian.net/?p=2614#comment-281098 The piece reminded me a bit of Nissenbaum & Introna on the virtues of P2P. . . especially the common reliance on MacIntyre and internal goods of a practice. Alain de Botton offers an interesting counterpoint, insisting that for most, labor is arduous, and there's little hope of finding meaning in it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/19/AR2009061901084.html But I do recall some fascinating reflections by Richard Sennett on the rewards of having a craft. I think he quoted Tolstoy's rapturous passages on Levin's honest work of scything wheat. Finally, I've been wanting to connect Shepherd's piece to Martin Seligman's chapter on "Why Are Lawyers So Unhappy" in his book Authentic Happiness. This may spur me to do that. The piece reminded me a bit of Nissenbaum & Introna on the virtues of P2P. . . especially the common reliance on MacIntyre and internal goods of a practice.

Alain de Botton offers an interesting counterpoint, insisting that for most, labor is arduous, and there’s little hope of finding meaning in it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/19/AR2009061901084.html

But I do recall some fascinating reflections by Richard Sennett on the rewards of having a craft. I think he quoted Tolstoy’s rapturous passages on Levin’s honest work of scything wheat.

Finally, I’ve been wanting to connect Shepherd’s piece to Martin Seligman’s chapter on “Why Are Lawyers So Unhappy” in his book Authentic Happiness. This may spur me to do that.

]]> By: Christine Bush http://madisonian.net/2009/06/30/copyright-and-the-art-of-motorcycle-maintenance/comment-page-1/#comment-281097 Christine Bush Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:16:14 +0000 http://madisonian.net/?p=2614#comment-281097 Funny, when Disney remixes Snow White (again and again and again) it is accompanied by the full corpulent weight of existing copyright law. When a genius with a turntable does it, it suddenly becomes "spaghetti on the wall"? Here's my spaghetti: "First thing, first thing, first thing...let's k-k-k-kill all the lawyers ". Funny, when Disney remixes Snow White (again and again and again) it is accompanied by the full corpulent weight of existing copyright law. When a genius with a turntable does it, it suddenly becomes “spaghetti on the wall”? Here’s my spaghetti: “First thing, first thing, first thing…let’s k-k-k-kill all the lawyers “.

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